(This was originally posted in the SplatterTribe NEWS section.)
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Black Stone Cherry/The Kentucky Headhunters,a lost Shapie & a Ride |
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Back in May,
SplatterTribe attended Rock on the Range in Columbus, Ohio.
I had an interview scheduled with Black Stone Cherry at the
event, but due to mix up's, run arounds and Roadrunner
Records, that interview never took place. Later in the day,
I bumped into Black Stone Cherry drummer John Fred and asked
him about the situation. He was nothing but polite and
apologetic. He then offered me his email address to contact
him later and reschedule the interview. The thing was
though, they were headed to Europe to do a massive tour with
Nickelback,
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Black Stone Cherry's John Fred Young @ |
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Rock On The Range '09. |
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as well as, a Summer Festival
run overseas. So getting in contact with John Fred
was a little complicated and I had Rocklahoma and
some other plans on the horizon myself, so I figured
the interview would have to wait and it did.
Then a few weeks ago I heard that Black Stone Cherry and Country
Legends The Kentucky Headhunters where playing a two
night benefit concert in Cave City, KY on
Thanksgiving Weekend. I saw this as my chance to get
that interview that I did not get at Rock On The
Range. So I contacted Richard Young, guitarist for
The Headhunters as well as father of John Fred of
Black Stone Cherry. Richard had previously did an
interview for me which you can view here. Anyway,
when I emailed Richard, I told him about the Rock On
The Range mishap and that I wanted to see about
arranging an interview with both Black Stone Cherry
and The Kentucky Headhunters at this event. Richard
immediately called me back, apologized for the Rock
On The Range confusion and told me to call him back
on Thanksgiving Day and we would get things arranged
for the show.
Ok, here's where I need to explain a little bit about Richard
Young. Richard is nothing but nice, but he is one of
those people that always has something else he is
supposed to be doing. In other words, he's always
got "a million things going on". Plain and simple,
he's a hard man to nail down. Almost to the point of
being frustrating at times, but the fact is, I have
nothing but RESPECT for Richard & The Headhunters
and the man does have a lot going on. I mean,
between The Headhunters, Black Stone Cherry, Animal
Management (his management company) and whatever
else he's involved in, he has a lot going on, I'm
sure.
Anyway, fast forward to day of show. We had mostly everything was
worked out. We decided it was best for us all if I
came on Saturday night instead of Friday night.
Richard would supply me with two passes at the door.
All I had to do is get there and I was going to get
to check out both bands, the opening acts, get the
interviews, including the Black Stone Cherry
interview that had alluded me back in May, and just
have an all around good night.
Then, BAMMMM! On the way to the event we started experiencing
serious vehicle problems. The kind where there's
popping, humming, jerking, stalling an etc. It
wasn't anything new, I mean within the last month or
so there has been about $400-$500 dropped on this
vehicle. It was supposed to be fixed and had been
for about a week. That is until right at the moment
we started on this trip, of course. Once again
Foiled by Fate!!......or at least shotty mechanic
work! (I'm not even gonna talk about the
Louisville/UNLV basketball game that was winding
down at the exact moment the vehicle troubles
started! Damn you Rebels!)
Things where definitely not going as planned..........
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The
Kentucky Headhunters (l-r) Doug
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Phelps,
Greg Martin, Fred Young &
Richard Young |
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We
arrived at the venue around 6 sounding like the
Beverly Hillbillies and as soon as we start pulling
in, the truck starts making a scary, unfamiliar
sound from the engine along with the occasional
familiar popping sound. So I get out and start
checking fluids and whatnot. I notice the oil is a
little low, so I put a quart in and at this time I
am at my wits end with this vehicle as I realize
this night is not going as planned and the vehicle
obviously was not as fixed as I had thought.
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One thing I did
notice though was the line to get into the venue,
which was wrapping around the parking lot. I knew I
would have to wait in that line to get to my passes
so I called Richard to let him know I had made it
and that it would be a while before I got in because
the line was a hella wait. When I called I didn't
get any answer. So I wasn't sure what was gonna be
going on and when it was gonna to be going on. It
was close to 7:00 by then, which was when the show
was supposed to start.
There were two opening acts, Purpose and WillowShade. Then The
Headhunters perform, with Black Stone Cherry closing
the show before packing up and once again heading to
Europe the next day. (This time Black Stone Cherry
will be opening for Motorhead.) Since it was 'go
time', I decided to block the vehicle issues out of
my mind for a bit so I could focus on what needed to
be done to get the interviews arranged.
Next Step: get inside and find Richard.
So we (Angela & myself) go inside and get our passes. So far…so
good. We get the passes on, do some walk-a-rounds
and check the venue out. I still haven't heard back
from Richard, so I decide to give him another call.
Still, there is no answer, just Richard's answering
service. Now, here's where we get to a cool part of
this story. It dawned on me that I needed to run
back out to the Godforsaken Truck at this point.
Why? Well, in the commotion of truck issue's and the long line, we
had forgotten to bring in our canned goods.
The reason we had canned goods for this Concert was because this
show was the 3rd annual Charity Toys For Tots/Canned
Food Drive for needy Ft Knox families put on by
Black Stone Cherry & The Headhunters. Everyone
attending was asked to bring canned goods for
donation and that they definitely did. There where
cans piling up behind the tables to the left when
you walked in the front door, all in the spirit of
helping somebody else. That was good to see and I
think they where awesome to do that.
Much respect deserved.
Now back to the story, since I couldn't get a hold of Richard, I
decided to just head to the backstage area and try
to track him down. I looked in the "green room" and
saw no signs of him. He shouldn't be hard to spot
because of his hairstyle is pretty noticeable. I did
see Ben Wells (Guitars/Backing Vocals Black Stone
Cherry) and a bunch of people I didn't recognize,
but no Richard. Then I asked the first guy I saw,
that looked like he might know what was goin' on, if
he had seen Richard.
He jokingly said "no” that he's "trying not to".
Then he mentioned that I should try the loading area behind the
stage. I took his advice and we journeyed to that
loading area just a few steps behind him. When we
went through the door, the guy yelled, "There's
Richard" and looked toward me.
That's when I noticed Richard about to rush on by and I spoke up,
"Hey Richard, I'm Luie from SplatterTribe!"
I had talked to Richard several times, but this was the first time
I met him. It's funny because he actually looked
like he sounds on the phone. He was walking at a
quick pace and looking in several directions at
once, like he had "a million things going on."
After he turned and heard me speak, Richard came straight over,
shook my hand, was nothing but polite and then asked
If I was going to interview all the bands. I told
him that would be awesome. If we could get it done,
I would do it. So he immediately took me over and
introduced the opening act Purpose, that had just
left the stage, to me and told them I was gonna do
an interview with them. The guys immediately
gathered together and Richard led us into the green
room where we could do the interview and then left
us. He said to get back to him after this interview
and we'd get together for the next band WillowShade,
who was on stage at the time.
So I set down with Purpose and we conducted the interview. I
haven't had a chance, as I write this, to review the
interview yet and make sure it came out ok. I know
there was a lot of background noise and the guys in
the band talked pretty low at times, but it was a
pretty good interview. Purpose is a young Christian
Rock band that is less than a year old. Good kids.
That interview will be up in one form or the other
very soon.
Well, I got that interview done and made my way back to the
loading/staging area to find Richard or Willowshade,
whoever came first.......
Well, Willowshade came first. I didn't see Richard anywhere, so
after Willowshade came off stage, I got them
together and told'm I wanted to do an interview with
them. I remember at this moment I thought, for a
moment, about the truck setting out in the cold
parking lot just waiting for the chance to screw up
more, but I shook it off and once WillowShade was
ready, we went out toward the green room to do the
interview. This is when I had a brilliant moment and
decided we should do the interview in the hallway
between the green room and the loading area because
it was quiet and the green room wasn't.
Well, we started the interview and then that was when I realized
there was no quiet area because once we got into the
interview, the door started slamming beside us
because people where going in and out getting set
for the Kentucky Headhunters to take the stage. I
have not reviewed this video yet, as of this
writing, to see how it came out either, but I will
do that very soon, as well.
Now around this time, I hear the Headhunters taking the stage.
Unfortunately due to all the running around, I had
not got to check out much of Purpose or
Willowshade's sets, but I did not want to miss any
of the Headhunters. Now, that is no smack toward
Purpose or Willowshade, but the Headhunters have
been around like 40 years and I had never seen them
play. So when the WillowShade interview ended,
Angela and I rushed to the back/loading area so we
could check The Headhunters out from the back. After
checking them out for a few minutes I noticed that
John Fred Young
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(Drummer of Black
Stone Cherry and son of Richard Young) was walking by.
As I said before, I had previously met John Fred toward the
end of the night at Rock on the Range and we spoke about
rescheduling the missed interview from earlier in the day. I
figured if I was gonna get this Black Stone Cherry interview
together I should mention it to John, beside's Richard had
previously told me on the phone that the best time for the
'Cherry interview was during The Headhunters set.
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Black Stone
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Lawhon
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So I stopped John Fred
and told him who I was and I wanted to get together and try
and get this interview done. That is when I noticed that
John Fred was a lot like his dad. He's nothing but polite
and you know how I said Richard always has "a million things
going on" and how he was looking in several directions at
once, well that is exactly how John Fred appears while
talking to him. I mean, don't get me wrong, he'll look you
in the eyes, but you can tell his mind is in a million
places. If you have ever saw Black Stone Cherry perform then
that would be no surprise to you because John Fred is
Crazy-Energetic behind the drums.....and on the
drums.....etc, etc. Anyway, I asked John if there was any
way to get the interview arranged. He said he remembered us
talking about the interview at ROTR and seemed game for the
interview and then right at that moment I realized he was
not really wanting to do this interview right now. I could
tell it wasn't gonna happen at this moment......and I'll
tell you why, because as we were talking over The
Headhunters performance, John Fred shook my hand like 5
times in 2 minutes.
Note to whoever is reading this, if someone shakes your hand 5
times in two minutes while looking in every direction; they
are trying to get away from you!
The thing was though, honestly I wanted to check The Headhunters
out myself, so it didn't bother me a whole lot that John
Fred was trying to ditch me. It was sinking in that the
interview thing was gonna be a bit complicated though. Plus,
there was still the fact that I didn't even know if we where
gonna be able to make it home, because of the truck outside
that was sounding like it was about to blow up, but I
digress.
Anyway, after John Fred made his way to side stage, Angela and I
made our way out to the floor to check The Headhunters out
in action. Walking around in the crowd, I thought it was
kind of cool how there was every age group possible in this
crowd; from kids, to old timers, to everything in between.
This show was definitely an all age’s affair.
Cave City is a dry city, so there was no alcohol at the event,
which (to my knowledge) was the first show that I have been
to, featuring a national act, which did not have alcohol. To
add to it, I recently quit smoking cigarettes, so I can
honestly say that it was a little odd to not smoke or have a
beer during a concert. That's a whole other story though!
Back to The Headhunters......Man, The Kentucky Headhunters kick
ass. That is all I can say about those guys. You’re talking
about a band that has been together 40 years. October of
this year marked the 20th anniversary of their debut 'Pickin'
On Nashville' album, but if you check out my interview I did
with Richard Young earlier in the year (check it out here),
you'll read a history that dates back to 1968. The current
lineup dates back at least 25 years and is 4/5 of the
line-up from their debut album. The only person missing is
former lead vocalist Ricky Lee Phelps (brother of bassist
and current vocalist Doug Phelps).
You know, when it comes to a good band nothing beats time and
experience. The Headhunters are as tight a band as you get
and each member throws their own punches to make one tight,
badass Southern Rock/Country band.
Back to the story though, when I watch a band I like walking around
and checking the show out from every spot I can get to and
on this night, I could get to almost any spot I wanted. So
we decided to journey back to the backstage area again and
check things out, besides I was starting to get concerned
that my interviews where falling through, again.
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So we got to the
green room area only to see John Fred once again rushing by.
He greeted us once again and shook my hand again as he power
walked to the back saying something to the effect that he
was trying to find his mom. Six John Fred handshakes into
the evening, I knew it was gonna be hard to nail this dude
down for an interview. So I went back out and checked The
Headhunters out for a couple more songs before journeying to
the back once again.
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This time around, the
first people I saw where Black Stone Cherry lead
vocalist/rhythm guitarist Chris Robertson, his girl and lead
guitarist/background vocalist Ben Wells. Chris and his girl
walked off after speaking to Ben (and right before I walked
up). I decided since I couldn't nail John Fred down that I
would talk to Ben about the interview. Ben, like John Fred
and Richard, was nothing but polite but said he didn't know
where everyone else was and that bassist Jon Lawhon was not
even there yet. He walked off saying he would see what he
could do. The fact was though, The Headhunters only had a
few more songs and then it was time for Black Stone Cherry
to perform. So I knew this wasn't gonna be happening before
their set.
The Headhunters finished up (BTW, Fred Young did an awesome "Go
Fred Go" drum solo that I got to witness from side stage.
He's a quiet, little ole dude, but is a monster on the
drums.....A Monster! Rock On Fred!) And still no BSC
interview. Now onto Black Stone Cherry's set.
As I said, I saw BSC open up Rock on the Range earlier this year
and all I remember was ENERGY. That is what I got once
again. The funny thing about watching BSC play in a smaller
convention center venue like this was, the fact that they
are used to playing in front of massive crowds. They are not
the biggest band is the US right now, but they are huge in
Europe, which is where they have spent most of the year
playing the biggest festivals in the world as well as,
opening for one of the biggest bands in Nickelback. The fact
is though, the list of bands BSC has opened for or played
with is an amazing Who's Who of Rock & Metal. I mean, it
really is. It blows my mind to see this list. Back to my
point though, the thing is when a band plays in front of
massive crowds they have to move BIG so people can see them.
They jump higher. They sway wider. Every movement is big.
You want the people in the back to be able to see you moving
on stage, you know. Well, that is how Black Stone Cherry is
on stage. They have played all of these massive shows and
even when they are playing a smaller venue they move BIG
which pumps up the energy and gets the crowd into it. The
fact is, if brand new bands would move BIG, they could get
crowds on their side a lot quicker. Once again that is a
whole other story though.
Black Stone Cherry put on an awesome show for their home state
crowd and they let out so much energy that it's hard for any
building to contain it. This convention center included.
John Fred is one of the most lunatic drummer's (along with
his uncle Fred) that I have ever seen play. He's standing
more than he's setting. As I said though, the whole band
puts on a BIG show no matter where they play.
Somewhere during the BSC set I ran into Richard again and talked to
him about the interviews. He said he wanted me to get one
done with BSC since I had issues last time and also said he
could go ahead and do one with me for the Headhunters if I
wanted.
This is the point where I asked him if he could sign The
Headhunters shirt Angela had purchased. We didn't have a
sharpie, so before when we had bought the shirt, she asked
the merch people if they had one. A guy let her borrow one
but told her he really, really needed it back when she was
done.
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Now, this is the
point where she hands Richard the sharpie to sign the shirt.
Well, Richard obliged us with signing the shirt. Then
someone from a distance yelled for him. Now mind you, this
was right after Richard had said he would do the interview
and right after he signed the shirt.
He then proceeded to stick the sharpie in his front pocket and walk
off talking to whoever it was yelling for him.
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I was like,
"Damn, there goes that interview" and Angela was
like, "Damn there goes the sharpie!"
No, actually when he walked off, I looked over at Angela and she
had this weird, smiley type expression on her face.
I thought she was reacting to the fact that he took
off after saying he would do the interview, but that
was not the case.
She was like, "He just put my sharpie right in his front pocket!"
Then, as he rushed by us while talking and walking with someone, I
noticed the sharpie right there bouncing around in
his front pocket. She was eyeballing his pocket
saying over and over, "See, there it is, right
there."
Richard done stole our Sharpie!
Angela is the type of person that if she tells someone she is going
to do something, it bothers her if she don't and now
that Richard Young was running around with the
sharpie she had borrowed and promised to return,
that is all she was thinking about.
Me, I was like, "I'm bothering the dude enough, right now, about
this interview, I'm not gonna go up and ask for a
sharpie back", you know?
I found this whole situation a bit humorous but since Richard had
disappeared with the sharpie by now, we decided to
check out the rest of the Black Stone Cherry show. A
couple of times Richard did walk by talking business
like with some people and each time I turned to
Angela only to see her eyes as big as quarters and a
grin on her face, as she eyeballed his pocket.
Black Stone Cherry finished their set, bringing the show to an end
and at this time I was having a dilemma. I had to
figure out the vehicle situation that had been
looming over my head all-night, plus I had been
unable to nail the Black Stone Cherry or The
Kentucky Headhunters down long enough to get my
interviews. Angela, of course, was still having
serious sharpie issues.
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So we made our
way back toward the green room. I was gonna give it
one more shot to get the interviews before I had to
address the truck situation. Angela still wanted the
sharpie back.
This was about the time Richard walked by again and not only did he
still have our sharpie in his pocket, but Angela
pointed out that he had acquired a few more! She was
like, "Look, I bet each time he's signed something
he took their sharpie!"
To this I had to laugh and... well...
agree because chances are that is what
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The most recent release from
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had happened!
This was later confirmed
when about 20 minutes later he walked by and had even more
sharpies in his pocket!
No, that part (the 20 minutes later) actually didn't happen, but
the rest is true. He did have about 4 sharpies in his
pocket, I believe. Actually, there was a point where he took
his shirt off (it was an over-shirt shirt) and sat it down
in a chair. I thought Angela was gonna do the ole military
crawl over to it, grab her sharpie and run, but luckily
cooler heads prevailed.
Anyway, to make this long story shorter than it could be, I ended
up seeing drummer Fred Young and asked him if he would do an
interview with me (to which he immediately replied, "No, No,
but my brother will" before agreeing to actually do it). As
I said before, Fred is really a cool ole dude. He's quiet
and normally doesn't do interviews, but he is such a fist
pounding monster on drums (and has the most badass sideburns
you will ever see in your life!). As Fred and I were walking
into the green room to do the interview, he asked guitarist
Greg Martin to join us.
I was like, "Awesome, I'm finally getting the interview!"
We sat down and started, then lead vocalist/bassist Doug Phelps
walked in and Fred & Greg asked him to join. Now I was
setting and interviewing the other 3/4 of The Headhunters
that I had yet to interview when.....BAMM!! They had to get
up and go take pictures with all the canned goods that the
fans had brought to the show.
I mean, like feeding needy families is more important than my
interview or something!
No, actually it was an awesome amount of canned goods and feeding
needy families is way more important than my interview. So
we ended the short interview and I followed the guys to the
where the canned goods had been stacked. This is when I ran
back into John Fred Young of Black Stone Cherry once again.
John Fred apologized for not hooking up yet and said if I
could wait till after the meet and greet the band was doing
than he would give me that interview. He also did not shake
my hand, by the way.
Unfortunately, about 30 minutes later, the line at the meet and
greet was still long and the night had gotten long itself. I
had no choice but to get out to the parking lot, address the
truck situation and end my quest for interviews. The show
was awesome and I'm glad I got to see it. The cause was
awesome and I'm glad I got to a part of it. Everything did
not go as planned, but I now have a goal, which is to nail
down some or all of the members of The Kentucky Headhunters
& Black Stone Cherry for a decent period of time and do some
interviews. It may take months or even years, but I'm going
to get this done.
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The
most
recent
release
from
Black
Stone
Cherry
entitled
'Folklore
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Superstition'
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It's like this; The Headhunters have
been around so long that they really have no need to hang
out with each other at their shows. Black Stone Cherry has
played so many shows, in front of so many people, in so many
countries, that they really have no need to hang out with
each other at their shows either. Besides, separation is how
bands stay together. Individuals are individuals. Both of
these bands, when they came together on stage, put on
awesome shows that the crowd appreciated and they all are
nothing but polite people. They're hard to nail down and
Richard Young may "borrow" your sharpie, but at the end of
the day, I got nothing but respect for both bands. I do know
that they both call Edmonton, |
Kentucky home
though. So maybe
I'm going to
have to head to
eastern Kentucky
and corner them
on their home
turf. There is a
legendary
practice house
in those parts
that I would
like to see. So
who knows?
Oh, BTW a
hose was leaking
antifreeze down into a
spark plug on the truck.
It was an easy fix, but
man did it make some
scary sounds. I also
want to add that I'm
sorry if this story
rambled at times but
this is just how things
went down!
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