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Originally POSTED 06/29/2009

 

Jamie Dundee

J.C. Ice

 

I know there are alot of people out there who do not get into Professional Wrestling, but I bet everyone out there has seen some pro wrestling on TV before. Some people grew up with it. Some people got into it when it had stars like Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin, The Rock and etc. Some people also grew up in it.

 

This interview is with one of those who grew up in it. Jamie Dundee has been known as J.C. Ice, The Iceman, Ice, and by his own name through the years. He is the son of Memphis/Southern Wrestling Legend Bill 'Superstar' Dundee. Who was as big as it gets in his time. So, Jamie has always known what wrestling was. He got his start at the age of 15 or 16 (He is not quite sure) and moved on to work with WWF, WCW, ECW and many, many independents including the Memphis based USWA. Through most of his wrestling career Jamie worked with his partner Wolfie D (and sometimes partner Midget D) in the tag team known as PG-13.

 

Jamie is also infamous for what comes out of his mouth. Part of the wrestling business is the art of being able to cut a good promo and at 160lbs through most of his wrestling career, Jamie definitely had to be able to talk to get himself over with the crowds. He did that and he did that with the best of'm. Jamie is not one for a loss of words. In fact, he was so   

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good at 'mouthing' that it landed him some gigs on the Jerry Springer Show. Jamie played roles on the show (Yes, Springer has always faked several shows and had actors play parts! Did everyone know that?) and he helped book some people on the show. His crazy antics and mouth also, a year or so ago, landed him a paying gig on the internet doing what is called in the wrestling world as 'Shoot' interviews. A 'Shoot' interview is an interview in wrestling that is out of character and basically wrestlers will talk about anything and sometimes anybody. Jamie's shoot interviews where probably some of the most drunkin', extreme interviews I have seen. I won't post links to them, but you can easily find'm if you're looking. In reality, this interview is indeed a 'Shoot' interview, but it's not like 'those' shoot interviews.....

 

Things have changed for Jamie since all those days though. He has gotten out of full time wrestling, works a full time job and seems to have found some peace in woman and family. Well, I don't know about family as far as him as his father, they seem to have a unique love/hate relationship, but that's a whole other story and not mine to tell. Whatever it is that brings him some peace, Jamie seems to be trying to better himself as a person and just live a normal life. How normal his normal life is? I do not know, I mean, he is Jamie Dundee.

 

Jamie does still wrestle occasionally and did on the night this interview was conducted. The event was for Mitch Ryder's XCW Midwest Wrestling in New Albany, Indiana and Jamie walked to the ring as a good guy and left as a bad guy, so who knows what the future of Jamie Dundee is? All I know for sure is Jamie Dundee was cool to me, he has now been Splattered!!! and I'd like to Welcome Him To The Tribe!!

 

Oh, and BTW, didn't I say the Superstar is coming??

 

 

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Former WWF, WCW, ECW & USWA Wrestler & Multi-Time Jerry Springer Guest Jamie 'J.C. Ice' Dundee  originally posted 06/29/2009. Transcribed Interview below with Bonus ECW footage!

 

Jamie Dundee ECW

 

 

 

 

Primal Email Interview with Jamie Dundee

 

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: So what are you into these days? Do you still do a lot of wrestling?

 

Jamie Dundee: I mean, wrestling is second to me now. That was part of my life and it was fun and I did whatever and now it's over. I do water tanks for a living (now). I travel around America and clean up your water.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: So how often do you still do the Wrestling events?

 

Jamie Dundee: When they are worth it to me, you know what I mean? Used to I did it because it was my living and no matter really what I made I had

Bill Dundee / Jamie Dundee

XCW Wrestling

to go do it to eat, but now I don't need that. So I just take it one by one. 

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: You where one of the wrestlers who, during the Monday Night Wars and all of that, actually wrestled for each of the Big 3. The Big 3 being WWF, WCW, and ECW. That experience had to be interesting, to say the least. I know when you entered the WWF you where involved with the Nation Of Domination and even did the theme song, I believe.....

 

Jamie Dundee: Correct. Me an my partner Wolfie (D), we went up there and wrote the theme song for the Nation Of Domination and the deal was (that) we'd be the rappers and then eventually they'd pair us off as a tag team.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: What happened to that situation? Was wrestling just a scattered game at the time?

 

Jamie Dundee: Naw, it wasn't wrestling. It was just us. You know, we were just wild and young and party animals. There was a lot of partying to be done up there. When we went there we thought we where big stars and we didn't care what they thought because they called us. We didn't call them. So, I mean, we didn't care. We just went and did our thing, entertained and got paid. But, really, I mean, as far as the career aspect, I blew it. If I knew then what I know now, but I mean that's everybody. You can't give a young kid a bunch of money and expect him not to do something stupid. It will never happen.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: Well, I mean, you started at a very young age in the wrestling business.

 

Jamie Dundee:  Oh, yeah, I was 15 or 16 when I was first on the road with my Dad in the wrestling business. (I was) like selling gimmicks for him and then I started managing him in this company where he became the booker in Knoxville, Tennessee for Ron Fuller. I became his little manager guy and then there, I met Wolfie D in '92, made PG-13 and just went after it.

 

 

 

PG-13

Jamie Dundee & Wolfie D

SplatterTribe: How did you and Wolfie D end up together? Where you friends before the team? 

 

Jamie Dundee: Well, you know when I first met him he had been around a couple of years. He was 18 or 19, you know. I met him in, I think, 1990 wrestling in a little outlaw town, Shelbyville, Tennessee. He was a kid growing up in Nashville and used to come to the fairgrounds and watch my Dad and all of them. So he was into wrestling his whole life. He grew up in Nashville watching (Jerry) Lawler and (Bill) Dundee and all the greats. So then a guy named Chris Champion was like, "Hey, man." We where wrestling each other and he was like, "Ya'll need to do a thing together." Wolfie came up with the shorts idea and the gimmick and I found a hubcap, painted it up and from then on we just became a team. We went to Jerry Jarrett and said, "Give us a chance."

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: Everywhere you guys went you where a team. What kept you together? Was you signing contracts as a team?

 

Jamie Dundee: Naw, Naw, we weren't, but I mean, we where so good together. I mean, our chemistry was just so hot and we just clicked so well together and we looked good together. One's a little bigger than the other. Wolfie is bigger than me.

 

Naw, but everybody called. They didn't just say, "Hey....", because in the wrestling business they do that. "Hey, I just want you. I don't want him." Everybody called and said, "We want Ya'll." We never really signed contracts. We just went for amounts that night. We worked Monday Night Raw on Monday. Then Tuesday and Wednesday we where working for Lawler and Jarrett's promotion. Then Thursday we'd go to ECW and work the weekend, Friday and Saturday. (We'd) take Sunday off and do it again. 

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: Did you like it better that way?

 

Jamie Dundee: Well, I did. You know, like the WWF paid us $500 to sing a Rap song on Monday Night Raw. The other guys that got their contracts, they had to pay for everything. We got $500 and our room paid for, our airline ticket, our rent-a-car. The whole nine yards. Allot of them guys that had 85-100,000 dollar contracts.....Well, shit their spending 60,000 of that on the road, because you have to stay at the Hyatt Regency. You aint goin' to the Motel 6.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: Plus they where limited on being able to do other events as well.

 

Jamie Dundee: Oh, yeah. They couldn't do it and we could do whatever and go wherever we want and do whatever we want.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: Out of the Big 3, which did you enjoy more?

 

Jamie Dundee: As far as the atmosphere, ECW. That's a party. That's all we cared about then was partying. So, definitely ECW.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: And the crowd heat and reaction was different there.

 

Jamie Dundee: Uhm.....Yeah.....It was....That was a pretty good thing too. We got to play 3 different characters in the same week. We got to be the good ole hometown boys from Memphis in Lawler's company. On Monday Night Raw we where the white guys in the Black Power group and then on ECW we where the Southern Rednecks. You know, "Fuck you Yankees." So, I mean, it was pretty fun. I enjoyed it.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: The last place you went to was WCW, I believe and that was after they had been going through a lot of turmoil. Was that something that you witnessed or was it just another gig to you?

 

Jamie Dundee: Naw, by the time we got there it was just the Jeff Jarrett show. Whatever Jeff Jarrett wanted. That's why we went. Jeff's like, "I'll pay Ya'll". So we went. You know, it was.....I think they all knew. I think everybody there knew. They knew it was over.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: I've seen your shoot interviews you did a while back. Are you still that same guy?

 

Jamie Dundee: Well, I mean, some would say (yes), but I don't think so. That guy is still there somewhere. He can always come back. I mean, that shit's...obviously it's me. I've done so many of them. That's how I become when I drink, do drugs and party, you know, so...

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: What made you decide to do stop doing that??

 

Jamie Dundee: I had a good little woman that wanted to keep me forever and I just thought, "Hell, I've done everything else. Why not try the normal life (chuckles) if there is one.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: As far as the shoots, did you get the response you wanted?

 

Jamie Dundee: Oh, I don't know because to me, I mean, they paid me a certain amount of dollars to get drunk and do the crazy shit that all of my buddies had probably talked about and made them think, "You gotta film Dundee." Which, I don't care...you know....that's.....I mean, I guess, you know, that's me. I can't handle that crap. I can't...you know....and if somebody don't like it, I'm sorry. You know what I'm saying? But I've bettered my life now. I'm moving on with my life and wrestling is second to me and behind me now, you know. I'm tired of it. I don't like it anymore. I'm just, I'm basically, pretty well, done with it. If I could get my own thing goin' with what I'm working on now, I won't do it no more.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: Well, that's what i was going to ask. Is it something you would ever go back to on a full time basis?

 

Jamie Dundee: Oh Hell no. I don't....I hate it. I hate it. I despise it and most of the people in it, I don't like, you know what I'm saying? Even the one's that where there and the one's that are coming through. You know? It's just not the same. I mean, there's 40 million wrestlers in the world now, they say. Everybody is a wrestler. There is a wrestling show every night, somewhere. Ten of them in a night, somewhere and everybody is a wrestler. I'm just, I'm done wit it. I enjoyed it. It was fun. I had a great

The Iceman - XWF

Mouthin'

time doin' it. I wish I could have changed a few things but I ain't gonna take none of it back. I ain't sorry for none of it. Hell with it.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: So there would be no circumstance?

 

Jamie Dundee: Well, you can't say that, you know what I'm saying but......

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: Do you still watch wrestling?

 

Jamie Dundee: No. I've never watched wrestling. If I ain't on it, I didn't watch it because everybody that knows me knows, I love me.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: Well, I mean, you being old school, you saw what it used to be...

 

Jamie Dundee: Yeah, but I didn't watch it then. My mom would holler. I'd be in the yard playing with my buddies or riding my dirt bike. My mom would (say), "Your daddies on." I'd run inside and watch my dad's little spot. I didn't watch wrestling. I didn't set at home and watch the show. I didn't.

 

(Tribe Note: Jamie's Dad Bill 'Superstar' Dundee was present during this interview. At this point we where having an issue with some people wanting to come through the door that we where filming in front of, which led to Bill and Jamie commenting in frustration to them and picking at each other.)

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: How about Midget D, how did he come into the PG-13 situation?

 

Jamie Dundee: The Midge! God Bless him. He's dead. He died. He OD'd. Well, he didn't OD, he got drunk and choked on his own puke deal. Fell asleep, passed out, drinking moonshine in Kentucky. That was in 2003. But The Midge man, I met The Midge with a guy named Dell Mann in 1986-87....something like that...Hell, anyway. He was just, my Midge, man. He was like my little son.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: So he was around for your camp for a while.

 

Jamie Dundee: Yeah, Dale Mann was the guy that got him in the 80's and that's where I met him and then we did the PG-13 thing and then one of those rap groups come out with a little midget, Buckwish Bill or some shit like that.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: Bushwick Bill.

 

Jamie Dundee: Yeah, that's him and somebody said, "Well, ya'll need a midget." And I said, well I know a midget! So we went up and got with him. I tell you what, he got over like Hell. Everywhere we went, you know? Then when he was gone (It was like), "Where's that Midget, man?" That Midget Rocked, man! The Midge was something else man. He was a crazy little bastard. he was a mentally challenged little midget. He got a little mental check. He was a crazy little bastard. I don't guess anybody loved him, but I loved him. He was like my boy. I took care of him for years.

 

 

 

The Nation Of Domination

WWF / Nation / PG-13

SplatterTribe: So what about you and Wolfie, are you still friends and all?

 

Jamie Dundee: Sure, I talk to him everyday, almost. Somewhere, like he just sent me a text a while ago saying he just talked to the Vampire Warrior, David Heath. (It said) "I just saw the Vamp!"

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: Does he still wrestle?

 

Jamie Dundee: Well, he just started back. You know, he did that TNA deal as Slash. They tried to fuck him on the contract. He said he just got his money and said he just got disgusted and quit. He took off seven years.....

 

He came back here. His first show was back here last year. (There) was a big show here. A Louisville Legends show. I brought him in. Me, him and my dad in a 6 man tag match up here. And he's worked a couple of more time (since then). So I guess he's gonna get back in it. He's gonna start doing a little bit, but I mean, he's disgusted with it too. 

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: Well, if you made your own highlight reel of your career, what would be some of the standouts? Those times where you where like, "Yeah, we're on it."

 

Jamie Dundee: Oh, well, of course, when you get the call to the WWF, especially me and Wolfie. You know, I'm 165 lbs- 170. Wolfie's 200lbs, 6'2. We started on Survivor Series and then you do a Wrestlemania. That's top of the world, man. There's a million wrestlers in this world, ain't gonna be but maybe 150 of them ever walk an aisle at a Wrestlemania, because 10 Wrestlemania's is usually the same guys, just a couple of different matches of different people. But basically they are all the same. You know, Undertaker has been on 17 years and you go back, most of the guys that are on it are still on it working with him now.

 

So, I mean and Me and Wolfie against the Rock N Roll Express in Louisville Gardens. It was a Louisville Legends show. (It was) '97 or '98 or something and that was a classic moment for me. Ity was like they passed the torch. They're the Rock N Roll Express.....Me and Wolfie was like, "Hell Yeah! Dude, we just beat the Rock N Roll Express. You know? 

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: OK, I want to touch on the Jerry Springer thing. How did that come about and how legit was it?

 

Jamie Dundee: That came because of The Midget. Iron Sheik did a show and they where talking about that they needed a 100 midgets. The Iron Sheik was like, "Jamie Dundee has got a Midget."

 

So he gave them my number and they called me and I was like, "Look, my Midget is crazy, man. My Midget will highjack that plane. So you bring me or you don't get my Midget."

 

And they where like, "Well, how many Midgets can you get?"

 

I'm like, "I can probably get you 20 or 30 Midgets. So I took like 25 Midgets or something and we flew up to Springer. Strollin' through the airport with 25 Midgets behind you, that's something....

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: How do you round up 25 "Little People".

 

Jamie Dundee:  Well, I called five that I knew, that had five that they knew, that had five that they knew and they all come.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: What was the whole Springer Experience like?

 

Jamie Dundee: Oh, it was great, you know and they paid me a certain percentage off each Midget I brought and from then on they just started giving me like $300 a show. They'd say, "It's a finders fee." They'd call me and say, "Dundee, we need a tattooed guy, a freak, a girl to kiss a girl". You know, my Daddy had them Tittie bars. I'd call up there.

 

(Tribe Note: At this point from the background we hear Bill disagreeing with Jamie bringing him into the story)

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: So you stuck with them and did more stuff?

 

Jamie Dundee: Sure. I started doing my own shows because they just said, "We love your Redneck voice." So I just did all different pimp shows, white power shows, whatever, just pay me. I don't care. I don't care what nobody thinks about it that don't like me, you know.

 

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WCW Nitro

 

 

SplatterTribe: Did they tell you what to do ahead of time?

 

Jamie Dundee:  They give you stories. It's not script wrote. There's no script or nothin'. They just say, "Look, Jamie, here's your story". You're pimpin' a 14 year old girl. Your standing up for the rights to pimp here because you are protecting her. That's all.....and the rest you're just adlibbing. It's like some of the stories I played where real stories. People called in and said, "I don't want to deal with that guy." Springer would be like, "Let's just fly Dundee up, he'll play it". You know, who cares?

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: That's what I was wondering. I wondered if they had people playing roles or whatnot.

 

Jamie Dundee: Sometimes and then some of them they made up. We just made up. You know, we need this kind of show. We want you to do this part, want you to play this character.

 

 

 

SplatterTribe: Well Jamie, Thanks a lot for the interview and is there anything you would like to close with?

 

Jamie Dundee:  Yeah, thanks a lot man. I appreciate it. Not a problem at all. Just uh, you know, Jamie Dundee Myspace if you want to see what's really goin' on in my world. I just keep a normal life. Say hello to my friends, my family, my fans and do the normal thing man.

 

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 Jamie "The IceMan" "J.C. Ice" Dundee 

 

 

 
   
   

 

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