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I conducted this interview with Munky at
this years Rock On The Range in Columbus, Ohio. A
portion of the interview was originally featured in the
debut issue of The Tribe Newsletter,
(Which is OUT
NOW ! Find Out More HERE)! Now the remainder
of the interview is available below with Munky speaking
a little on each of Korn's albums. So, time to take a walk down the
memory lane known as Korn with a guitarist named Munky
on a website named SplatterTribe... |
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Photo Credit: John Akers / Interview
conducted
and Transcribed by
Luie Primal
Last updated:
08/16/11
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The Tribe: OK, I’m gonna name all the ‘Korn’ albums and I want you to say whatever comes to mind.
Munky: (Stares off, like he is thinking) Alright.
The Tribe: First off, the debut album 'Korn' from 1994…
Munky: That’s the original recipe right there. That’s where everybody just sort of dumped their soul out on the table. We didn’t know if people was gonna like it or what. We knew we had something special, after the recording. Listening back, we were going, “Wow, this is cool!” You know? It was the beginning man.
The Tribe: Do you still remember what that time was like after the blur of being on the road for so many years?
Munky: I remember some highlights. You know, doin’ shows around L.A. and stuff and getting
exited. “Oh man, the guy
from ‘Warner Brothers’ is coming,” or “the guy from
‘Atlantic’, that we’re gonna meet with, is coming!” It’s exiting, you know? To talk about, “We’re gonna get signed!” (Big
Smiles) You know? That shit doesn’t even exist anymore.
I don’t know what people even do these days. (They) try
to find an independent distributor and get their music
out (and) hope for the best? Things have changed so much
in the music industry now…
The Tribe: What about 'Life is Peachy'?
Munky: ‘Life is Peachy’ was nothing but drug induced and alcohol. I remember coming off the road and just having no time to really write songs and just being frustrated because we didn’t really understand being on the road. (We didn’t understand) how intense it was and how much we were
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gonna be
away from our families. That was really the first taste we had
of being on the road and (thinking), “Wow, I’m gonna be away
from my family for some years now.” I just remember writing a
bunch of songs that were sort of frustrated and pissed off, like
being all fucked up, but it was a lot of fun, you know. I think
we’ve had a lot of fun making all of our records.
The Tribe: So you were a totally different band on that album
than the debut right?
Munky: Yeah, we learned a lot and we were trying some
experimenting with some tunes, but I remember being pretty
fucked up. -BUT- not as much as some other records coming up.
(Smiles Big)...
The Tribe: 'Follow The Leader'…
Munky: Follow The Leader, that was a lot of fun. I just
remember having a good time. We recorded it in North Hollywood.
We always had a lot of friends around. I remember a lot of
friends coming by the studio. I remember at one point on
Thursdays we had this thing we did called 'Korn TV. We
sort of started our own Korn channel and we had
different guests in and stuff. I remember Dita Von Teese
was there. You know, this is like 12, 13 years ago. It was just
a bizarre time. I remember a lot of cocaine. First it was the
alcohol with 'Life Is Peachy' and now we were
moving into cocaine.
The Tribe: Did the writing change through these time periods or
did you always write the same way?
Munky: Yeah it was always the 5 of us in the room just
kind of hammering out riffs. We’d play a riff. We’d stop and ask
ourselves (what we thought). (We’d) look around the room and see
if people were fucking digging it or getting exited, like the
guys in the band, you know? And we’d know it was good if we kept
wanting to play it over and over again…the riffs. But I remember
not getting a lot done. It was a slow process. We had a bigger
budget. ‘Sony Music’ had started to let go of some
money to us a little more. I remember at the end of the
recording we had something like a $30,000 alcohol bill. So we
spent about 30 grand in the process of two months on just booze.
The Tribe: That makes for a hulluva recording though, right?
Munky: (Shakes his head yes) We had a lot
of fun (smiles)...
The Tribe: What about 'Issues'?
Munky: Issues, kind of, I think, sort of had that (affect
of) where the newness sort of wore off. We sort of wanted to
focus our energy back into the music. (But) we still had fun. We
took it to Atlanta, which was good because it took us out
of our comfort zone. It made us focus on (the music). This record
feels more of like a concept record, I think, because it has
interludes and has an intro and it just sort of feels like a
well rounded album to me. It's one of my favorite albums, for
sure.
The Tribe: Did you guys intentionally try to make it a concept
style album?
Munky: No, no, it sort of just grew into that. It wasn't
intentional at all. We were just sort of like, "let's start
writing songs" and it just (happened). That's how it always is,
though. You just set back and watch it unfold before you and you
never know what's gonna become of each riff. You start putting
songs together and it starts sounding like an album. But yeah,
that's definitely one of my favorite albums.
The Tribe: What about 'Untouchables'?
Munky: Untouchables was sort of like an
experimental album to me. And again, we thought (about) removing
ourselves away from our families (during the recording). I
remember our producer Michael Beinhorn was very
meticulous about sounds and tones. When we did the Issues
record, it sort of opened the door to guitar tones and using
tones and guitar sounds to build, and sort of architect (and)
construct sound as sort of a dimension, you know? Where you hear
things up close and then far back. And I think
Untouchables is where we really started to perfect that.
It's a lot more experimenting.
The Tribe: How much do you guys try to make each album it's own
album?
Munky: It's always like, "ok, we're gonna make a record
and man, we really want this one to be the best," and you
really do. You set the bar before and you want to do better than
your last record. You want to try and perfect it. You're always
perfecting it. It's a practice, you know? You're in the studio
and you're learning new stuff all the time. And with technology
now... That was one the first time we recorded with a new program
-with Untouchables- called U Phonics,
which was sort of like a Pro-Tools editing way of recording that
was all on hard drive. It was really different and strange but
exiting because of the playbacks. Some of the sonics on that
album are some of the best on any album I have ever heard.
The Tribe: So you are more like wanting to beat the last album
than you are wanting to be different from the last album...
Munky: Yeah. It's not even like "Oh, we need to sell more
records." It's, "let's get the songs fucking right"... That's
our position. It's never like "this record has to be like this."
It's like, "(let's) just get in there, write the songs and
figure out what it's gonna be later" -what the album is and the
artwork and stuff.
The Tribe: What about 'Take A Look In The Mirror'?
Munky: Take A Look In The Mirror was sort
of like, kinda trying to go back to our roots. You know, after
all the experimentation on Untouchables. And on
Untouchables, we had moved out to Arizona...
And I can't say it was a mistake, but it maybe wasn't the right
choice, because there was a lot of distractions there. We went to
Phoenix, like on of the biggest party towns in the
country and we made it even more of a party town when we where
there. I mean everybody had different houses- to go back to
Untouchables. You know, Fieldy had a
house., Jonathon (Davis) had a house. Head
and I shared a house. It was just complete chaos. It was really
like, to squeeze out one song a week was like, huge. It was a
huge accomplishment. We spent a lot of money on that. Like, I
don't know, millions of dollars. Not really on the recording,
but on the living expenses and shit and all the extracurricular
fun. So (for Take A Look In The Mirror) the record
company was like, "you know, a, let's just do something a
little modest" and I think it was good for us. To kind of come
back to Earth. Like, "alright, let's real it back here a little
bit", hence the title, Take A Look In The Mirror.
"Let's sort of reevaluate what's goin' on and write some songs
where we all get in the room. We don't need all of this extra
bullshit."
The Tribe: How do you decide on the album titles?
Munky: We start poking around ideas and sometimes
Jonathon will pull a lyric or a feeling out of what he's
written about. Fieldy's really good about titling
albums and coming up with that sort of thing. So it's a
collaboration of ideas. Someone will come up with an idea and
it's like, "yeah? ...How bout this" until we all agree on it and
it fits with whatever it is we are doing at the moment. Because
to me, records are just snapshots of where you are in your life.
It kind of like, when we talk about this (like we are right now), it's like goin' over a yearbook. Like, "oh yeah, I remember that." It sort
of where you where at that time of your career. And man, I feel
so blessed to be able to go over this many records, you know
what I mean? it's rare, man.
The Tribe: Next up, 'See You On The Other Side'.
Munky: See You On The Other Side was sort of like
(with) the departure of Head, we were like, "ok,
let's kind of shake things up here." We wanted to include some
new writers. It's sort of like trying to experiment some more.
You know, we can write the same (kind of) songs, but we started
to feel like, "we've been doing this a million fucking time's.
Let's try something different." I think that's what that was
about. "Let's completely go out of our comfort zone and write
something like...Ooooh, I don't know? I like it, but I don't
know how our fans are gonna react to this kind of thing." And we
went out on a limb on that album and took some chances and
recorded some great songs on it. To me it's sort of like a
record that is more like accessible to more of a mainstream, I
think, you know?
The Tribe: What about 'Untitled'?
Munky: Untitled was, to me, a very Gothic-y
sounding record. I really enjoyed working with the producer
Atticus Ross, the guy that works a lot with Trent
Reznor now. He's just a great programmer and he's really
super creative. He knows a lot about tones and sonic. It was a
lot of fun because it was sort of like, "we can kind of get more
dark and spooky." That record reminds me of a dark, spooky
record, like if Alfred Hitchcock was to make a
movie today, he'd want that record to be the soundtrack.
The Tribe: Last up, 'Korn III: Remember Who You Are'.
Munky: Korn III was just like, "Ok, let's
reevaluate things again", kind of look back, like what we're
doing (with this interview) and look at the records we've done and the
different themes we've touched on through the years. "Let's
fucking get in a little room in a one car garage and write a
record like we used to- on the first record 'Life Is
Peachy', and bring back two-inch tape. We brought
Ross (Robinson) in. We wanted to capture that, you know,
four fuckin' guys from Bakersfield and pissed off.
You know, because it's there. It's just a matter of dusting it
off. It's like a muscle, you know? You gotta exercise it. You
gotta fuckin' use it. So we still have it. So it doesn't get
weak.